abheirrant: (♛ a modicum of light)
Carlisle Longinmouth ❧ ɹᴉǝH ʇɥƃᴉlq ǝɥʇ ([personal profile] abheirrant) wrote in [community profile] redmarsshit2020-04-18 07:44 pm
Entry tags:

✓☒✓ Two Truths & A Lie Meme ✓✓☒



Two Truths & A Lie

TO PLAY:
1. post your character
2. post some comments that include two truths and one lie about your character! Feel free to make multiple comments under the same toplevel if your character has a lot of lies to tell. :>
3. comment ICly on other threads! Guess which one is the lie, try to weasel the answer out of the poster, call them out, tease, etc.
4. have fun!
circumspector: (( beboop ) » gritting your teeth)

Re: Starscream

[personal profile] circumspector 2020-04-21 07:01 am (UTC)(link)
Well I guess so.

Tungsten is a weird favourite flavour but I can't be sure.
vosseeker: (eleven.)

[personal profile] vosseeker 2020-04-21 07:10 am (UTC)(link)
Then your guess is incorrect.

It's a common additive to processed energon. As are magnesium, copper, cesium, mercury... depending on personal taste.

Tungsten tastes... tart. And it improves fuel burn.
circumspector: (xxii »  its safe in cages)

[personal profile] circumspector 2020-04-21 07:15 am (UTC)(link)
Oh really? Most robots I knew liked the flavour of pure high quality fuel, straight, no additives.
vosseeker: (forty-five.)

[personal profile] vosseeker 2020-04-21 07:19 am (UTC)(link)
[ Starscream ex-vents loudly, annoyed. ]

Mech. The term is mech, not 'robot'.
circumspector: (xi » how is it you sing anything)

[personal profile] circumspector 2020-04-21 07:21 am (UTC)(link)
Oh, sorry! Mech where I come from implies you are piloted by a human and have no sentience, so I thought that would be ruder.
vosseeker: (thirty-eight.)

[personal profile] vosseeker 2020-04-21 07:26 am (UTC)(link)
An imperfect translation to a common tongue, then. 'Robot' translates in Cybertronian to a drone, as opposed to being sentient.

[ But he does, after the fact, appreciate the explanation. ]
circumspector: (xi » how is it you sing anything)

[personal profile] circumspector 2020-04-21 08:23 am (UTC)(link)
Noted, I'll make sure to keep it in mind.

Robots are sentient, where I come from, drones are drones. Mechs are large armoured suits for humans to ride in combat.
vosseeker: (fifteen.)

[personal profile] vosseeker 2020-04-25 05:20 am (UTC)(link)
[ Starscream thinks of Silas using Breakdown's corpse like a puppet. His EM field crackles. ]

Humans will always be inferior, no matter what technology they thieve.
circumspector: (ii » nightingale blackbird)

[personal profile] circumspector 2020-05-01 05:27 am (UTC)(link)
Is it thieving if they built it for themselves?
vosseeker: (twenty-six.)

[personal profile] vosseeker 2020-05-03 03:00 pm (UTC)(link)
A barely passable difference.

[ and then, speculatively: ]

Your robots were sentient? Where did they come from?
circumspector: (network » this is not a dream)

[personal profile] circumspector 2020-05-04 03:08 pm (UTC)(link)
We built them to be that way. It's been a very long time, there was a war about their sentience I think - then they were granted full autonomy, and things that aren't necessarily built to be AI, become AI and gain their awareness just with time and learning.
vosseeker: (twenty-nine.)

[personal profile] vosseeker 2020-05-06 03:52 am (UTC)(link)
Shouldn't the very fact that they were built by others negate the fact that they could be sentient?

[ He sounds perplexed by this. ]
circumspector: (xi » how is it you sing anything)

[personal profile] circumspector 2020-05-06 04:16 am (UTC)(link)
That's like saying just because you organically grew a baby, the baby isn't sentient. It doesn't matter if it is constructed by hand or evolved - it's still a person.
vosseeker: (fourteen.)

[personal profile] vosseeker 2020-05-06 04:33 am (UTC)(link)
[ Starscream isn't sure the analogy is accurate, since as he understands (ew) organic reproduction, the creators don't intentionally generate the individual consciousness. ]

Hm. Whether Cybertronians have a frame which is forged or constructed cold, our sparks are not "built". That is how we differentiate mecha from drones.

But other worlds may see the distinction differently.

[ It's as much concession as she's likely to get from him. ]
circumspector: (xiv » or merely hallowing)

[personal profile] circumspector 2020-05-07 03:51 pm (UTC)(link)
[ Angel pauses with her lips closed a moment as she takes in what he says. ]

There was only one other race if you want to put it that way in my world - I mean plenty of alien life, but it is more like... dogs, cats, horses, that sort of thing, but from different planets.

Those aliens were Eridians, and they've long since disappeared.

But apart from that, no, programming intelligence is perfectly possible and it is true intelligence, not a drone. They think, feel, learn, choose, change, fall in love, experience heart break, develop their own personality long, long after human construction, they have outlived most of their creators. They're highly valued, every high-end warship has one and they fight to get the best ones. But others also take more mundane paths. I know of one AI that became a tour guide for a water planet.

It's actually a huge problem sometimes because obviously we like our drones to be very capable of independent tasks, but if you over program them.... they gain true intelligence gradually with your basic building blocks, and before you know it, you have an uprising in your beer bottling factory. Or worse, they started dating each other and now they want a divorce so you're trying to grapple with sentience protection legislation and meet your deadlines for beer production and divorce proceedings.
vosseeker: (Default)

[personal profile] vosseeker 2020-05-15 12:07 pm (UTC)(link)
[ It seems mystifying to him, because there's such a stark delineation on Cybertron between what's sentient and what's not. Even the Vehicons, for as much as Starscream calls them drones when he's mad at them, knows they're not. It's an insult, not a basic misunderstanding of their function. The Vehicons, being fracture sparked and mass produced, who toe the line between even being considered legally people under Cybertronian law (not that there was much left of that, but still) are never classed as machinery. ]

Your vehemence on the subject is the most interesting thing, I think.
circumspector: (xvi » or simply dreaming)

[personal profile] circumspector 2020-05-16 11:48 am (UTC)(link)
[ Her teeth click, blinking slowly as she takes that in. The observation in return of her that is more of a check than it ought to be. Slows her breath in and out. ]

Their mind was my mind. Their feelings were my feelings. Their pain was my pain. I suppose yes, I do feel for them, for their struggles. Many feel like you do, that because life has been made rather than just springing up a mystery, it is lesser.

I don't accept that.
vosseeker: (eleven.)

[personal profile] vosseeker 2020-05-18 01:38 am (UTC)(link)
[ Oh, but that was interesting. He hadn't meant it as chastisement and yet that seems to be how she took it, or at least enough to refocus her. ]

No one requires you to accept it, for it to be the truth. You seem eager to apply your standards to worlds you are not from.
circumspector: (network » you're part of a machine)

[personal profile] circumspector 2020-05-18 05:00 pm (UTC)(link)
If I did that, I'd shoot everyone to say hello. That's how it usually works by the standards I'm... familiar with. Violence is the only rule where I come from.

I thought people here would like it if we talked and share ideas together.
Edited 2020-05-18 17:01 (UTC)